What were the moments in your life when you thought you would quit dancing? In a stage podcast, the 56-year-old dancer Amancio Gonzalez, a long-time member of the Forsythe Company, reveals the most significant and difficult turns in his career as an artist in a conversation with the dramaturg and theater maker Dandan Liu (Berliner Ringtheater) and looks back at his relationship to the techniques, traditions and norms of dance in the last 30 years of his artistic work. While the highly competitive profession of a dancer is dominated by the logic of age discrimination, in the second part of the evening Amancio Gonzalez navigates through the internal and structural constraints of the dance world with a reinterpretation of the legendary solo “The Dying Swan”. The piece, choreographed in 1926 by Russian choreographer Mikhail Fokine, is usually performed at galas by prominent ballerinas. This time, the complex meaning of “dying” is delicately embodied by a male swan on pointe shoes.